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is that a concern of law enforcement? now that the public has been asked to provide tips, you know, i hate to look like these two guys here. but, you know, any concerns that they they have been b. people taking this into their own hands? >> i don't think so. because i don't think, you know, you look at these two is suspects, you can't jump to any conclusions what their religious affiliation, their race is. they look like caucasians, maybe caucasian mixed with hispanic or some other race. you can't really tell from the photos. i don't know how anybody could focus on any one group. there is no ideology attached to these individuals. the fbi doesn't have that information. so, nobody has claimed this attack which to me doesn't really mean much, because i think even terrorists learn if you claim something, all of a sudden there is this big drone coming down at you, you know, firing missiles. so, i'm not sure that that is something that is really telling here. i think people would certainly participate in reporting. i don't kno
is that a concern of law enforcement? now that the public has been asked to provide tips, you know, i hate to look like these two guys here. but, you know, any concerns that they they have been b. people taking this into their own hands? >> i don't think so. because i don't think, you know, you look at these two is suspects, you can't jump to any conclusions what their religious affiliation, their race is. they look like caucasians, maybe caucasian mixed with hispanic or some other race....
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and without break any laws or crossing police lines. frankly i was surprised how closely we could get. there are thousands of unclaimed yellow bags sitting on the sidewalk in boston, massachusetts tonight, sean, from runners who had prepositioned their clothing, their personal items, keys to their car, their cell phone, wallet, credit card, money. two to six thousand of those bags have not been claimed tonight and likely will not at least until tomorrow when some of those runners can gain access. >> and the difficulty for the police is every one of those bags now they must assume and use great caution when looking into them. you mentioned that you flew into logan airport, which is not far from where the finish line is for this marathon. there was an earlier report that airspace was restricted and cell phone service was shut down. cell phones, for those who don't know, can be used to trigger explosive devices. >> all good points. i landed at 6:50 local time. flight from new york could not have been easier. as you know on that route from
and without break any laws or crossing police lines. frankly i was surprised how closely we could get. there are thousands of unclaimed yellow bags sitting on the sidewalk in boston, massachusetts tonight, sean, from runners who had prepositioned their clothing, their personal items, keys to their car, their cell phone, wallet, credit card, money. two to six thousand of those bags have not been claimed tonight and likely will not at least until tomorrow when some of those runners can gain...
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>> first of all the fbi and other law enforcement agencies need to plug the leaks. it's very irresponsible for someone with inside information in an investigation like this to put out information that could be detrimental and affect the integrity of the investigation. they could be prosecuted. they could be prosecuted for doing that. so they need to stop the leaks, first of all. they probably should have a spokesperson or someone at least providing some information to the media, even if they can't tell them when they are doing right now. it's been a long time since they have been out in front of the media. at least tell them what's going on and don't answer any specific questions they don't have to answer or don't want to answer at this point in time. >> jeff, thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. >> and twelve seconds of terror and it can seem like an eternity if it is you with the twelve seconds of terror. here's what it's like. experience the twelve seconds. [explosion] [explosion] [screaming] >> fox news anchor bill hemmer joins us live from boston. the twelve seco
>> first of all the fbi and other law enforcement agencies need to plug the leaks. it's very irresponsible for someone with inside information in an investigation like this to put out information that could be detrimental and affect the integrity of the investigation. they could be prosecuted. they could be prosecuted for doing that. so they need to stop the leaks, first of all. they probably should have a spokesperson or someone at least providing some information to the media, even if...
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the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on, who was financed and trained and paid for and sent here by a foreign government that wants to destroy the united states of america, then he can be treated as a soldier of a foreign country, then you can be treated as an enemy combatant. but governor, there's not an iota of evidence to support that. in fact the evidence the fbi has said is to the contrary. mayor menino, governor patrick, the head of the fbi in boston, have all said these guys were not sent by a foreign government. >> mike: i think you make a great point, too, about the just dessert that people get. timothy mcveigh, a sense of justice
the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on,...
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that is what law enforcement needs to focus on. there are supporters this is boston. if someone is acting funny, their going to know. >> thank you. >> greta: now to dr. bodden. back to what the police are looking for. in the aftermath of the bombing as they comb the immediate debris field. and farther down the path what. do you think they're looking for? >> now, they're tracking hundreds of leads that have been called in because someone saw something, they'll be taking whatever materials from the field that might be part of a bomb device together with materials from surgeries tomorrow. and from first thing they'd do is identify bodies and take x rays of the dedeedent dedeedents -- deseedents and removing them, bringing that over to the crime lab. they're going to have -- they don't have to have the whole wirks only a little bit of wire, only from a little bit they can tell whot manufacture was, where waits sold in boston. they'll be finding a treasure trove of material in those fragments and a agree. they're now -- security cameras in this area where the bombs went of
that is what law enforcement needs to focus on. there are supporters this is boston. if someone is acting funny, their going to know. >> thank you. >> greta: now to dr. bodden. back to what the police are looking for. in the aftermath of the bombing as they comb the immediate debris field. and farther down the path what. do you think they're looking for? >> now, they're tracking hundreds of leads that have been called in because someone saw something, they'll be taking...
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lead law enforcement agency. they are the ones that will coordinate the whole thing. what's fascinating there as well is you have robert mueller who pardon me has been on the job for several years. his term has been extended once and now he is done in a few months. this is going to be his last major investigation. he has already got one foot out the door. you have a completely new national security team here at the white house for the second term. john killing a at state. john brennan. and this whole new group of people around him, the president, who are being tested here very quickly. let's remember what we have been talking about and you have been talking about it on your show for weeks is about immigration reform and gun control and the budget and what is he going to do on the grand budget. all of a sudden that's on the back burner. >> bill: the terrorism thing becomes a major issue because this is the second time now we have been hit and 9/11, of course, being the first. the president basically is dependent now on multi-cultural and the fbi. and those guys are not
lead law enforcement agency. they are the ones that will coordinate the whole thing. what's fascinating there as well is you have robert mueller who pardon me has been on the job for several years. his term has been extended once and now he is done in a few months. this is going to be his last major investigation. he has already got one foot out the door. you have a completely new national security team here at the white house for the second term. john killing a at state. john brennan. and this...
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they are distributing photos of the men to the law enforcement community. however, they are not let releasing the images to the media. one is wearing a backpack and the other appears to have a bag of some kind. earlier today there were multiple reports authorities got this important piece of information from a department store surveillance video near the finish line of the marathon. we go live back to boston, our very own bill hemmer standing by. i understand it, bill, you have seen these photos? >> good evening to you. thanks to my colleague, rick, who you will speak to in a couple minutes on your program here. i have seen the picture and the images, and you can clearly see, you know, the faces of these two persons described in the report rick broke a few hours ago. but with regard to that, sean, you think about theence that wad and was postponed and later cancelled. you think about what the boston police department defeated out en its official page about 90 men's ago about a statement from the fbi that several minutes later then they said it will not happ
they are distributing photos of the men to the law enforcement community. however, they are not let releasing the images to the media. one is wearing a backpack and the other appears to have a bag of some kind. earlier today there were multiple reports authorities got this important piece of information from a department store surveillance video near the finish line of the marathon. we go live back to boston, our very own bill hemmer standing by. i understand it, bill, you have seen these...
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that is what law enforcement needs to focus on. there are supporters this is boston. if someone is acting funny, their going to know. >> thank you. >> greta: now to dr. bodden. back to what the police are looking for. in the aftermath of the bombing as they comb the immediate debris field. and farther down the path what. do you think they're looking for? >> now, they're tracking hundreds of leads that have been called in because someone saw something, they'll be taking whatever materials from the field that might be part of a bomb device together with materials from surgeries tomorrow. and from first thing they'd do is identify bodies and take x rays of the dedeedent dedeedents -- deseedents and removing them, bringing that over to the crime lab. they're going to have -- they don't have to have the whole wirks only a little bit of wire, only from a little bit they can tell whot manufacture was, where waits sold in boston. they'll be finding a treasure trove of material in those fragments and a agree. they're now -- security cameras in this area where the bombs went of
that is what law enforcement needs to focus on. there are supporters this is boston. if someone is acting funny, their going to know. >> thank you. >> greta: now to dr. bodden. back to what the police are looking for. in the aftermath of the bombing as they comb the immediate debris field. and farther down the path what. do you think they're looking for? >> now, they're tracking hundreds of leads that have been called in because someone saw something, they'll be taking...
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>> during the manhunt. >> listen, law enforcement was very successful in this terrorist search. it was less than four days until they identified the person and put pictures of the two suspects out to the public. >> right. >> they knew the day before what these guys looked like because they had gone through the hundreds of hours of video and pulled down these two guys' images and basically had tracked their moves. >> i'm trying to think about hat live was like for them behind the lines. you hear stories about crazy gunfire taking place, the kind much stuff you see or hear in a war zone. not in the united states. how terrifying it must have been for them. it appears that these young men could have hadilitary type training or training of that sort. >> the joint terrorist task force, the fbi, the local police departments did a phenomenal job in not only coordinating the efforts with each other, but basically having teams of edts. >> what's that? >> explosion detection teams. >> yep. >> s.w.a.t. officers. they basically had themselves protected. and they basically did a phenomenal jo
>> during the manhunt. >> listen, law enforcement was very successful in this terrorist search. it was less than four days until they identified the person and put pictures of the two suspects out to the public. >> right. >> they knew the day before what these guys looked like because they had gone through the hundreds of hours of video and pulled down these two guys' images and basically had tracked their moves. >> i'm trying to think about hat live was like for...
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law enforcement in general has done a good job in foiling other terror plots. the subway bombings in new york that were planned and foiled. >> time square, underwear bomber. >> it was a citizen that helped out on that one. the list goes on and on and on. they didn't stop this one in advance. what does this say about our national security if anything? >> you have to be right -- you know you have to be right 100% of the time and they only have to be right once. the other thing i keep coming back to is i am surprised we haven't had this sort of thing before. it is easy to do. all you need to do is go on-line and there is that "inspire magazine" that is like martha stewart living for terrorists. there is an article on how to build a bomb in the kitchen of my mom. it is easy and cheap and you can do it with very little infrastructure and warning. our intelligence services got very good at seeing big stuff. we have been able to track money , large amounts of money coming overseas to the united states and back and forth. we have been able to track large infrastructure
law enforcement in general has done a good job in foiling other terror plots. the subway bombings in new york that were planned and foiled. >> time square, underwear bomber. >> it was a citizen that helped out on that one. the list goes on and on and on. they didn't stop this one in advance. what does this say about our national security if anything? >> you have to be right -- you know you have to be right 100% of the time and they only have to be right once. the other thing i...
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with the resources in boston, they are extreme right now for law enforcement. the watches have been extended, certainly everybody's looking for two bombing suspects. so they have a lot of resources on deck. so this response isn't surprising on the perimeter. an officer's been shot, shots fired and certainly, i want everybody to know the most violent person on the street is an armed robbery suspect. they are committed. they will kill. they are usually well armed. they are actually know their weapons. so that is a very dangerous suspect, probably at the same level as a gang member on the prowl to kill somebody. so the violence does not surprise me in an armed robbery. the response might have surprised the suspects because of everything that's been going on in boston. now they have an officer down who has died. that elevates everything, the adrenalin. it motivates them. i saw k-9 officers and if there is a tactical s.w.a.t. team there, they are going to try to narrow down where the suspect is in and close in on the suspect. >> just as we were speaking to you, i th
with the resources in boston, they are extreme right now for law enforcement. the watches have been extended, certainly everybody's looking for two bombing suspects. so they have a lot of resources on deck. so this response isn't surprising on the perimeter. an officer's been shot, shots fired and certainly, i want everybody to know the most violent person on the street is an armed robbery suspect. they are committed. they will kill. they are usually well armed. they are actually know their...
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if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the men pictured here, please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays. that's 1-800-call-fbi. all calls will be kept confidential. we have also established a website for tips that directly relates to the bombing. please contact us at bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. again, that's bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on fbi.gov. it's important to everyone size the images from monday are indelible and the horror from that day will remain with us forever. this further underscores our need to pursue them judiciously. the victims and survivors deserve nothing more -- income g less. excuse me. the fbi is committed to ensuring the victims receive the rights they're entitled to and the assistance they need to cope with the crime. providing them with assistance will better our cases. our resources include an office of victim assistance at fbi headquarters and victim specialists nationwide. these highly trained professionals can assist
if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the men pictured here, please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays. that's 1-800-call-fbi. all calls will be kept confidential. we have also established a website for tips that directly relates to the bombing. please contact us at bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. again, that's bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on fbi.gov. it's important to everyone size the images from monday are...
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no one should attempt to apprehend them except law enforcement. let me it rate -- reiterate that caution. do not take any action on your own. >> bill, the fbi has already processed thousands of leads and tips and no doubt will get many thousands more. >> indeed. and they are set up for that, we do believe, rick. anything else about these people that people, rather, should pay attention to that you are hearing? >> absolutely. everyone should look at the hats these guys are wearing it's possible that they bought them for that day, monday the attack at the marathon. they should look at the jackets they are wearing. look at the walk. the ones guy's walk might be distinctive to someone as you see them coming down the street. people should remember why the fbi is hunting these two and one of them, again, you can clearly see his profile in one of those photographs. and, by the way, all of those photographs, videos that have been submitted, some people may not have submitted pictures that they thought would not be valuable to the investigation now seeing
no one should attempt to apprehend them except law enforcement. let me it rate -- reiterate that caution. do not take any action on your own. >> bill, the fbi has already processed thousands of leads and tips and no doubt will get many thousands more. >> indeed. and they are set up for that, we do believe, rick. anything else about these people that people, rather, should pay attention to that you are hearing? >> absolutely. everyone should look at the hats these guys are...
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a federal law enforcement source tells fox news that investigators have ruled out that saudi person of interest they were questioning and about whom we have been speaking. he is not a suspect. but boston's chief fbi agent promise, and i quote, we will good to the ends of the worth to find out who was behind the attack on patriots day. >> this remains an active investigation. our ongoing investigation in various locations goes on. however, there are no known additional threats. we continue to interview various witnesses and process the crime scene. which could take some time. >> shepard: here are the latest numbers. three people killed, more than 170 others wounded. we learned that eight-year-old martin richard who was watching his dad run the marathon is one of those killed. a relative saying 29-year-old crystal campbell also died. she was set to take photographs of her friend's boyfriend crossing the finish line. and now we're getting a new look at the size and power of this attack. one runner captured part of her marathon on video, including her race to the finish line. look. >> shep
a federal law enforcement source tells fox news that investigators have ruled out that saudi person of interest they were questioning and about whom we have been speaking. he is not a suspect. but boston's chief fbi agent promise, and i quote, we will good to the ends of the worth to find out who was behind the attack on patriots day. >> this remains an active investigation. our ongoing investigation in various locations goes on. however, there are no known additional threats. we continue...
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i don't believe in making laws from a crisis. the democrats did that with newton and they came up with a lousy bill. it is almost comparable to that. i don't know if this applies to immigration. i get a little scared when people do that. >> thoughts? >> it will have an impact on both sides. if you oppose the gang of 8 bill or supported it, you could actually take some of the arguments out of boston and apply them to the bill. one of the things in the bill they are probably going to have to fix is it allowed for an easier immigration status from chef chechnya to the united states. that's something they wrote on sunday night that was in the bill they released monday morning. i think they needed to be changed. >> let's cutoff the muslims. >> i think it will help the immigration bill for the following reason. they do get harder on people who committed crimes or people that are potentially a threat to the united states. that will be helpful. secondly, the immigration issue here resolves around those who are here now. and i think if we
i don't believe in making laws from a crisis. the democrats did that with newton and they came up with a lousy bill. it is almost comparable to that. i don't know if this applies to immigration. i get a little scared when people do that. >> thoughts? >> it will have an impact on both sides. if you oppose the gang of 8 bill or supported it, you could actually take some of the arguments out of boston and apply them to the bill. one of the things in the bill they are probably going to...
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mike levine, the department of justice telling law enforce -- saying rather law enforcement believes the incident may be related to the boston bombings and an investigation continues. levine reports fbi is now saying that local police may have arrested a man with similar features, similar features as one of the bombing suspects. that could have been suspect number one with the dark cap or suspect number two with the white cap. those were images that were first broadcast across the world at 5:00 local time during the fbi briefing. the fbi knew when tho pictures went out they were high quality. they knew they had to draft a lot of interest from em pooh. interest from people. they braced themselves for the possibility. they were ready for it. it is possible those tips and those individuals, especially suspect number two who the profile of suspect number two was so clear. if this was a friend of yours or a family member you could clearly identify them. the massachusetts state pleasant out a statement saying suspect number two prominent jaw, defined those. that profile picture is so telli
mike levine, the department of justice telling law enforce -- saying rather law enforcement believes the incident may be related to the boston bombings and an investigation continues. levine reports fbi is now saying that local police may have arrested a man with similar features, similar features as one of the bombing suspects. that could have been suspect number one with the dark cap or suspect number two with the white cap. those were images that were first broadcast across the world at 5:00...
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helped with all of the major laws relating to home land. michael, your reactions? >> what you sees the marathon is the hardest thing to protect. 26 miles lots and lots of people. there's no points to be able to see who is coming in with what, what they are carrying. it is one of the things we worried about the most these big public events in an uncontrolled environment. >> even though you have the cameras to see someone is dropping a bag, someone saying what's going on at 34th and 5th. by the time you react might not be enough time to stop it. >> you don't know what's going on afterwards unless you have data base which is really good facial recognition. if you could pick out somebody in a crowd maybe intercement them, the chances of that happening are very, very hard because you have to match it against the known data base. that is very hard to construct. >> they said between 10-15 different terror attacks have been stopped. some are comparing this to the times square bomber? how does it remind you have that? >> same thing as an opportunity event. it was a wonderfu
helped with all of the major laws relating to home land. michael, your reactions? >> what you sees the marathon is the hardest thing to protect. 26 miles lots and lots of people. there's no points to be able to see who is coming in with what, what they are carrying. it is one of the things we worried about the most these big public events in an uncontrolled environment. >> even though you have the cameras to see someone is dropping a bag, someone saying what's going on at 34th and...
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if you see these men contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or men pictured here please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays. 1-800-call fbi again, 1-800-call fbi. all calls will be confidential we have established a web site for tips relating to the bombing. please contact us at bosto bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on our web site fbigov. it's important to emphasize images are indelible and the horror of that day will remain with us forever this, under scores our obligation to investigate this crime in order to bring those responsible to justice. victim asks survivors deserve nothing more. nothing less, excuse me, as to monday's victims the fbi is committed to ensuring victims receive rights they're entitled to and assistance they need to cope with the crime. treating victim was respect and providing them with benefits will better our cases, resources include a office of victim assistance at fbi headquarters. these pro figsals can assist victim asks coordinate to provide v
if you see these men contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or men pictured here please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays. 1-800-call fbi again, 1-800-call fbi. all calls will be confidential we have established a web site for tips relating to the bombing. please contact us at bosto bostonmarathontips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on our web site fbigov. it's important to emphasize images are indelible and the horror of that day will remain with us...
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extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we accomplished. thank you. >> did you have communication with the suspect? >> we are not done. chief mcmillan from the mbta. >> i want to thank all those who sent thoughts and prayers to officer donahue and his family. it was deeply appreciated. and i want to commend all of the law enforcement agencies who took part in this. this is truly dedication and commitment at its best and i'm proud to be part of it. thank you. >> special agent in charge of the atf. >> i'm special agent in charge of the atf. >> right here. >> thank you. >> today the entire world witnessed this law enforcement community commitment to appeals prehe henning offenders. make no doubt this combined effort will never cease in its protection of every city, every town and every neighborhood in our nation. the prayers from every atf employee will continue to go out to the victims as they heal from the senseless act of violence. may god bless the citizens. >> sufficiensuffolk county dist attorney. >> thank you very much. i was listening
extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we accomplished. thank you. >> did you have communication with the suspect? >> we are not done. chief mcmillan from the mbta. >> i want to thank all those who sent thoughts and prayers to officer donahue and his family. it was deeply appreciated. and i want to commend all of the law enforcement agencies who took part in this. this is truly dedication and commitment at its best and i'm proud to be part of it. thank you. >>...
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i was following as you see in some of the tape i was following the law foreignsment officers wo -- law enforcement officers working toward the gun fire. it wou i would guess 5-7 blocks and down about 3 blocks. we heard an explosion as well. the guys i was with were working down toward it. somewhere in the tape we will see an ambulance leaving the active gun strong scene. i believe talking to ylaw enforcement here talking to other forces not the mit officer but the officer that was shot here in the gun battle he was taken to area hospitals. i was in the vicinity. the guys as you can see they apprehended someone with no injury there is. they could keep the crime scene and as best they can apprehend suspect number 2. the light is coming u. that will give more advantage should this guy be in this area in watertown. otherwise normally quiet town, certainly not the case tonight. >> let me get some clarification here. no one is coming in or out of that area where you are, it's all kaur docordoned off. how large is that area are we talking miles and miles or a few blocks? >> i am told that it
i was following as you see in some of the tape i was following the law foreignsment officers wo -- law enforcement officers working toward the gun fire. it wou i would guess 5-7 blocks and down about 3 blocks. we heard an explosion as well. the guys i was with were working down toward it. somewhere in the tape we will see an ambulance leaving the active gun strong scene. i believe talking to ylaw enforcement here talking to other forces not the mit officer but the officer that was shot here in...
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he basically puts all the pressure on the law abiding people and law abiding people know it he doesn't have a solution to gun violence in his own town. they have the strictest handgun laws in the country and who is getting mowed down? 30, 40 people every weekend. everybody knows it's a phony issue. >> they made a calculation in the white house that the background checks what the popular and most easiest thing. >> bill: doesn't work. it's not going to stop it? >> maybe it was a mistake if they had gone for bigger bill more come prehenszive maybe they would have convinced more people on the hill this is a big bold thing that's going to get actually put a dent in the problem. i think the counters inside the white house would be when you talk to his top aides if he can't even get this thing that's got 90%. >> bill: is he going to get nothing because people don't trust him on the issue. all right? that's -- you know, they say, look, if your gun control so good, why is this happening in chicago? and he has got no answer. all right? they don't trust him on the issue. and that's why he is gett
he basically puts all the pressure on the law abiding people and law abiding people know it he doesn't have a solution to gun violence in his own town. they have the strictest handgun laws in the country and who is getting mowed down? 30, 40 people every weekend. everybody knows it's a phony issue. >> they made a calculation in the white house that the background checks what the popular and most easiest thing. >> bill: doesn't work. it's not going to stop it? >> maybe it was a...
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we need to guarantee the law will be enforced and border secured. i'm saying this bill is a starting point for the discussion. if somebody out there or my colleagues have an idea about thousand guarantee the law's enforced, we're open to that and hopefully that's what we will get from the process we'll undergo. we think we can build on it. >> neil: are you worried post boston, though, that it's going to make it tougher? >> listen, boston exposes flaws in the system and we should address that in this bill. of course. that's one of the things the bill does, requires people illegally here to undergo a background check and national security check and maybe that should be expanded for everybody. we're open to those things. why have a tragedy happen in boston, which is horrible, but we need to learn from it. why not applied the lessons whether in this bill or another bill. >> neil: do you think they've piled on too much to this bill hoping it would address not only the illegals here but they want to expand, or some do, the legals here or those granted vis
we need to guarantee the law will be enforced and border secured. i'm saying this bill is a starting point for the discussion. if somebody out there or my colleagues have an idea about thousand guarantee the law's enforced, we're open to that and hopefully that's what we will get from the process we'll undergo. we think we can build on it. >> neil: are you worried post boston, though, that it's going to make it tougher? >> listen, boston exposes flaws in the system and we should...
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law enforcement is asking anyone in the public who may have knowledge of these men to come forward. here with reaction, a former no, detective. good to see you. >> you need a new york detective. now listen, we know something about lord & taylor. they have time lapse photography there, seen in the different segments there. i believe that was the pictures they picked up from the lord & taylor. now you have the exact time. you notice one thing, one of the photographs is a guy with the white hat, he was on his cellphone. you have a cell tower that pings everything. all those recordings, what those numbers are going to, are pinged off that cell tower. you can get a lot of information besides the physical appearance of them. they're now developing all the forensic information, all compiled together. >> sean: let me play devil's advocate. >> go ahead. >> sean: wouldn't the guy have someone else purchase a throw-away phone that the drug dealers use? >> okay, mr. devil. one thing, mr. devil, how many you get the number -- >> sean: maybe the number he's calling is to trigger that bomb. >> ver
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so if you want to change the law, i might be with you. if you want to change the constitution, i might be with you. but we have a framework of laws that we have to abide by. and it can't be a little of this, or a little of that based on convenience. >> all right. let's get mark his quick answer here. >> okay, quick answer. the only problem here is the world is watching. i don't know how many attorneys, fbi officials are watching this interrogation, it's so soft it's like it's in grade school. the problem is how do we know he's telling the truth? he's going to take the easiest route to please us. >> have we become a hysterical nation who is willing to bend to our principles? that's what the world is watching. >> one question i have, is he at war with us, is he a criminal or is he a terrorist that's at war with the united states? we don't know yet. >> we is probably all but he's part of our criminal justice system now and we should hold him accountable and execute him. >> mark, good to see you. peter good to see you. thank you. >> coming up
so if you want to change the law, i might be with you. if you want to change the constitution, i might be with you. but we have a framework of laws that we have to abide by. and it can't be a little of this, or a little of that based on convenience. >> all right. let's get mark his quick answer here. >> okay, quick answer. the only problem here is the world is watching. i don't know how many attorneys, fbi officials are watching this interrogation, it's so soft it's like it's in...
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the fbi said, and law enforcement said he was in serious condition. but dr. cebull was on earlier saying he spoke to the hospital, and they said that is the term now. we are told that he's protected by armed guards. we believe he's been unable to answer questions so far. our chief intelligence correspondent, katherine herage is working this story. what a week. i know it's not about you, katherine, but you worked hard on this story all week and we appreciate you being here on a saturday as well. what's the latest? >> we have as a team, megyn. thank you. they investigated the older brother for extremist ties. fox news was told a thorough background check was done and no derogatory information was found. but the house intelligence committee tells fox today that the fbi's contacts with the suspects and the possibility something was missed is creating discomfort at the bureau. >> there are a lot of pal pa ta -- palpitations going on with the fbi, what if anything did they miss. that's going to be heavily scrutinized. >> fox news understands all electronic traffic
the fbi said, and law enforcement said he was in serious condition. but dr. cebull was on earlier saying he spoke to the hospital, and they said that is the term now. we are told that he's protected by armed guards. we believe he's been unable to answer questions so far. our chief intelligence correspondent, katherine herage is working this story. what a week. i know it's not about you, katherine, but you worked hard on this story all week and we appreciate you being here on a saturday as well....
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they will put up what is called a chinese wall between the intelligence gatherers and law enforcers so that all they gather is intelligence. that is what the high value investigative or interrogation group is designed to do. >> judge jeanine: what is interesting is as you said they don't need any of these statements. i'm not quite sure that the whole issue of miranda is even relevant at this point given the fact that they have so much evidence it appears based upon the number of photos and images et cetera, et cetera. but judge, what charges might they file against him? and if this case is brought in federal court and it seems that all indications are that it will be brought in federal court, isn't a federal judge bound by, you know, the federal rules of evidence, delay because they may not be able to talk to this defendant for a month or two because he is so drugged from all of the injuries and would a judge be faced with some of the evidencery issues he would with a regular criminal in a criminal trial? >> the evidencery issues will certainly be the same. so far as delay in charging
they will put up what is called a chinese wall between the intelligence gatherers and law enforcers so that all they gather is intelligence. that is what the high value investigative or interrogation group is designed to do. >> judge jeanine: what is interesting is as you said they don't need any of these statements. i'm not quite sure that the whole issue of miranda is even relevant at this point given the fact that they have so much evidence it appears based upon the number of photos...
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they will put up what's called a chinese wall between the intelligence gatherers and the law enforcers so all they gather is intelligence. that's what this high value investigation or interrogation interrogation group is designed to do. >> well, you know, what's interesting here is that, as you said, i mean they don't need these statements. you know, i'm not quite sure that this whole issue of miranda is even relevant at this point given the fact that they have so much evidence it appears based on the number of photos and images, etc., etc. but judge, what charges might they file against him? and if this case is brought in federal court, and it seems that all indications are that it will be brought in federal court, isn't a federal judge bound by, you know, the federal rules of evidence, preaccusatory delay, because they may not be able to talk to this defendant for a month or two because he's so drugged from all the injuries, and would a judge be faced with the evidentiary issues he would be with a regular criminal in a criminal trial? >> so far as delay in charging him, motions will
they will put up what's called a chinese wall between the intelligence gatherers and the law enforcers so all they gather is intelligence. that's what this high value investigation or interrogation interrogation group is designed to do. >> well, you know, what's interesting here is that, as you said, i mean they don't need these statements. you know, i'm not quite sure that this whole issue of miranda is even relevant at this point given the fact that they have so much evidence it appears...
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the more information they can synthesize whether from the terrified public or their colleagues in-law enforcement, the easier it will be to eventually put a noose so to speak in the area where he might be and tighten the noose until they can find him and isolate him. they are very, very adept at pinpointing locations. he probably has a cell phone with him, and the cell phone is probably sining -- sending signals to the tower. there are high-tech tech fecks that the police will use to try and isolate him. they have the added pressure of time. they have to stop him before he kills somebody else. >> and right now they are in the dark. right now they will keep searching through the night and especially if they haven't found anything by daylight hopefully the daylight will further help their investigation. thank you so much for your insight. we are going to go back now to griff jenkins who is on scene in watertown. what can you tell us about what is happening at this time? >> it remains an active and dangerous crime scene. residents still told here in watertown of a five or six or more blo
the more information they can synthesize whether from the terrified public or their colleagues in-law enforcement, the easier it will be to eventually put a noose so to speak in the area where he might be and tighten the noose until they can find him and isolate him. they are very, very adept at pinpointing locations. he probably has a cell phone with him, and the cell phone is probably sining -- sending signals to the tower. there are high-tech tech fecks that the police will use to try and...
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we urge you to cooperate with law enforcement authorities. the resources of the fbi and jttf allow for swift action we hope will yield quick results but that does diligence and persistence combing through the high volume of evidence and leads we're processing right now. we're beginning upon that path. thank you very much. >> i'm a, i'm gene marquez, acting special agent in charge, atf, boston field division. atf in partial of our response team activation. we're bringing our explosives specialists here to the scene and we will work jointly with the fbi and partners in the jtt. if we have certified explosive specialists. we have explosives enforcement officers. we have special agent bomb techs and we have k-9s that are trained to detect any explosive devices or any residue. at this time we have a approximately 30 forensic specialists in or out on the scene and to dispel any rumors there were, there were rumors floating around there were seven devices, seven devices at one point. that is not true. i think that happened as a result of some suspec
we urge you to cooperate with law enforcement authorities. the resources of the fbi and jttf allow for swift action we hope will yield quick results but that does diligence and persistence combing through the high volume of evidence and leads we're processing right now. we're beginning upon that path. thank you very much. >> i'm a, i'm gene marquez, acting special agent in charge, atf, boston field division. atf in partial of our response team activation. we're bringing our explosives...
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investigation where people need to be patient, because the fbi and the rest of the intelligence and law enforcement community will turn inside-out to identify any possible additional suspects and subjects, to determine all the activities of these two guys. the net will be cast far and wide. and every lead will be uncovered. and we need to have some patience to allow them to do that. because this is not "csi," this is the real world. >> steve, thanks so much for being here. >> you're welcome. >> all the best to you. >> thanks, megyn. >>> one of the brothers suspected of the boston marathon bombing, apparently following and promoting the rantings of this radical muslim cleric. who called in children to become martyrs for islam. steve emerson, who is a leading expert on terrorism called our attention to this, and he has quite an update today. he's live, next. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my
investigation where people need to be patient, because the fbi and the rest of the intelligence and law enforcement community will turn inside-out to identify any possible additional suspects and subjects, to determine all the activities of these two guys. the net will be cast far and wide. and every lead will be uncovered. and we need to have some patience to allow them to do that. because this is not "csi," this is the real world. >> steve, thanks so much for being here....
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law enforcement trying to resolve this thing at this point. but it's still a lot of work. they have a lot of evidence. big crime scene. you've got people to talk to. a lot to follow up. you've got to find out the motive, different thing that's might come out of this evidence. >> curious to learn they became -- how they became radicalized. >> we have to figure out how this took place. and having the suspect alive and ability to interview that person is going to be very helpful to the investigation. a lot of records and documents and searches to be checked as well. that is going help lead to what took place. and motives. >> we've got word two years ago the older of the suspects was interviewed by the fbi a long series of interviews after a foreign country's government requested our fbi check out to see whether he was trouble. and they talked to him, interviewed friends it's my understanding and in the end decided they couldn't find anything in his background to suggest he might be radicalized. then that foreign government never got back to the united states for a follow up.
law enforcement trying to resolve this thing at this point. but it's still a lot of work. they have a lot of evidence. big crime scene. you've got people to talk to. a lot to follow up. you've got to find out the motive, different thing that's might come out of this evidence. >> curious to learn they became -- how they became radicalized. >> we have to figure out how this took place. and having the suspect alive and ability to interview that person is going to be very helpful to the...
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new information on the incident in boston with the fbi, state and local law enforcement all appealing to the public, asking for any amateur video and photographic evidence that can aid in what now has become a massive investigation. >> we are in the process of securing and processing the most complex crime scene that we've dealt with in the history of our department. we are doing that under the direction of the fbi and in partnership with the atf. jenna: not insignificant that he says that the most complex investigation in their department's history. despite a variety of different reports that you've all heard over the last 24, nearly 24 hours, the commissioner is making it very clear that right now no one is in custody in connection with these attacks. >> we still do not know who did this or why, and people shouldn't skwrupl top conclusions before -- jump to conclusions before we have all the facts you about. make no mistake, we will get to the bottom of this. and we will find out who did this. we'll find out why they did this. any responsible individuals, any responsible groups will
new information on the incident in boston with the fbi, state and local law enforcement all appealing to the public, asking for any amateur video and photographic evidence that can aid in what now has become a massive investigation. >> we are in the process of securing and processing the most complex crime scene that we've dealt with in the history of our department. we are doing that under the direction of the fbi and in partnership with the atf. jenna: not insignificant that he says...
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for example, if they have had any contact with law enforcement. this is just one of multiple leads that is being run down at this hour. but confirmation, they are looking into a saudi national between the ages of 20 and 21 years old who was here on a student visa. i think another key development is that there is going to be a briefing on capitol hill tomorrow by the nctc. that's the national terrorism center set up after 9/11 to assess and monitor the threats against the united states. we anticipate that will happen fairly early tomorrow morning here in washington, first with the house intelligence committee and after that the senate intelligence committee. as you know, late today the chairman of that committee, senator dianne feinstein, she believed boston was an act of terrorism. the third development comes from the head of the homeland security committee, republican congressman mike mccall, who has been briefed on the investigation. he told fox earlier today he had an initial reporting there was shrapnel, ball barges, incorporated into the devi
for example, if they have had any contact with law enforcement. this is just one of multiple leads that is being run down at this hour. but confirmation, they are looking into a saudi national between the ages of 20 and 21 years old who was here on a student visa. i think another key development is that there is going to be a briefing on capitol hill tomorrow by the nctc. that's the national terrorism center set up after 9/11 to assess and monitor the threats against the united states. we...
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my hat goes off to law enforcement. we can only hope they will get the information as this goes forward. >> all week log, i am overwhelmed at the public support, the cooperation between the public, the law enforcement and the media and the way the word got out and the outpouring of help. i think back to the times i was working on the unabomb and atf and postal inspection service and working in the mountains of western north carolina, on the olympic bomber, eric robert rudolph. one of the things that came back to me as i thought about those days and i watched these people in action, they worked hard all week. they are exhausted. the people of boston are composted. and tonight, they show the world and set an example what have america's all about in the face of tential tragedies. i also think back and can't help but to wonder and think about the fact we are sitting here on top of april 19, april 20, these are significant days to anyone who has worked terrorism. this is the anniversary of the oklahoma city bombing in april
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>> the law enforcement were -- when we came around the corner, there wasn't a lot of law enforcement going up on auburn. we were told we couldn't come up. so we just went a back way on russell ave. we go down franklin street wk the dog. as we were approaching auburn street, all we heard was gunfire. i don't know if they kind of slipped in there, but we didn't see a lot of presence and then within -- i can't tell you, within two minutes the place was sur sroded just completely surrounded. >> how far away is your home from the current scene that we are looking at on franklin street. >> i live on mount auburn street. my home is three blocks away. >> so you are allowed to go back home? >> i'm sorry? >> you are allowed to go back home? >> we're not going back home. right now there -- they are literally -- there are jus hundred threads and hundreds and hundreds of ighbors and police are here and unmarked trucks an ambulances and it's -- you know, everyone is kind of at a it stand still. shooting, there was definitely shooting. >> joining us on the phone is mary sullivan a witness to the sh
>> the law enforcement were -- when we came around the corner, there wasn't a lot of law enforcement going up on auburn. we were told we couldn't come up. so we just went a back way on russell ave. we go down franklin street wk the dog. as we were approaching auburn street, all we heard was gunfire. i don't know if they kind of slipped in there, but we didn't see a lot of presence and then within -- i can't tell you, within two minutes the place was sur sroded just completely surrounded....
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from a law enforcement perspective that's going to change the whole equation. approach this guy like you would any suspect. >> bill: thee guys are throwing explosives at the cops they didn't know what they had. >> we know you are busy. we can't thank you enough for helping us out tonight. left wing politics emerge just hours. and tom broekhoff is center stage. right back with that report. >> bill: impact segment tonight. politics in the boston terror situation. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. even while the two suspects were at large, people like barney frank were politicizing the boston terror bombing and incredibly some in the press were doing that as well. >> i send my deepest condolence to the families in boston. president obama said that the boston was an act of terrorism. i would like to ask do you consider the u.s. bombing on civilians in afghanistan earlier this month that left 11 children and a woman killed a form of terrorism? why or why not? >> well, i would have to know more about the incident and obviously the department
from a law enforcement perspective that's going to change the whole equation. approach this guy like you would any suspect. >> bill: thee guys are throwing explosives at the cops they didn't know what they had. >> we know you are busy. we can't thank you enough for helping us out tonight. left wing politics emerge just hours. and tom broekhoff is center stage. right back with that report. >> bill: impact segment tonight. politics in the boston terror situation. that is the...
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ie any kind of interaction with law enforcement. this source emphasized there are just not resources to checkup on legitimate student visa holders are tending school in this country. two sources told us the name and date of birth was sirk rated for -- circulated to capitol hill. it may wash out along with others. >> my guess is that there may be a number of search warrants being exsuited -- executed tonight. we know of an apartment in massachusetts being searched. do we know whose that is? whether it's related to this person of interest? >> we're working to confirm reports coming out of boston police and federal agents are searching a complex in refer. reports indicate there are canine units as well as bomb squad fbi and homeland security investigations this is a part of homeland security that would also include immigration and customs enforcement. not clear whether it's related to the boston explosion. fbi special agent in charge emphasized this is an active investigation and fluid. and less than 12 hours from now we're going tofr
ie any kind of interaction with law enforcement. this source emphasized there are just not resources to checkup on legitimate student visa holders are tending school in this country. two sources told us the name and date of birth was sirk rated for -- circulated to capitol hill. it may wash out along with others. >> my guess is that there may be a number of search warrants being exsuited -- executed tonight. we know of an apartment in massachusetts being searched. do we know whose that...
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any indication from your law enforcement sources that they have any suspicions at this point? >> what i hear at this point in time is they can't rule anything out. it's way too early in the game. they have to look at this device, they have to look at how it is built, they have to look at how devices over in the middle east were built and have been utilized. and pressure cooker bombs have been used in the middle east,@% especially pakistan. they know that. but they also, as i said, it's a very common bomb, if you will. so they have to look at everything. as one person said to me, what was the message of the bomber? what were they trying to say? it's very hard to rule out for anybody at this point in time, the date. it was tax day, it was four or five days before the anniversary of waco. it was patriots day in boston and this was a celebration that was honoring the newtown victims. there's a lot of american, if you will, symbolism around all the elements of the bombing that all the investigators are looking at right now. they start with the forensics, they start with the compone
any indication from your law enforcement sources that they have any suspicions at this point? >> what i hear at this point in time is they can't rule anything out. it's way too early in the game. they have to look at this device, they have to look at how it is built, they have to look at how devices over in the middle east were built and have been utilized. and pressure cooker bombs have been used in the middle east,@% especially pakistan. they know that. but they also, as i said, it's a...
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what's going on behind the scenes with law enforcement? >> i think there may be some late-breaking developments in terms of if they have a specific suspect, which it sounded like they did earlier. perhaps they weren't ready to make a move or statement on it. we don't know if there is one or two persons involved in this. they have received 2,000 images that they are currently analyzing from the public based on the public plea they made yesterday. there is a lot of rich forensic information to go through. you had all those people out there crime scene investigators capturing things supposed to be moments from family members that turned into this tragedy. the fact that they were able to recover so much of this bomb as well is going to be very helpful. they will be able to identify through specific markers exactly where every piece of that bomb came from. just by doing that they are able to narrow in on suspect or suspects. they can also use the footage that was seen of the individual, match that together i wouldn't be surprised if we heard so
what's going on behind the scenes with law enforcement? >> i think there may be some late-breaking developments in terms of if they have a specific suspect, which it sounded like they did earlier. perhaps they weren't ready to make a move or statement on it. we don't know if there is one or two persons involved in this. they have received 2,000 images that they are currently analyzing from the public based on the public plea they made yesterday. there is a lot of rich forensic information...
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i hope the obama administration will allow us that option that exists in our law. they have a very bad track record here. >> cane see mike tobin again? >> 10 seconds later the second explosion goes off according to the fbi at the location where he dropped his -- please don't do that, where he dropped his knapsack. shepherd? >> the only bright spot in this whole thing. ambassador, is it a mistake not to label him a combatant? can we still an interrogate him? >> there is a choice that has to be made here whether you treat these criminals as through the criminal justice system or you treat them as enemy combatants. it is because they are too fundamentally -- two fund mentally different things at work. if you think there is just a jumped up case of bank robbery it is for the criminal justice system. if you think it is part of an on going war against the united states it is completely different paradigm. and trying to mix the two together which many do hurts us both in criminal law enforcement and in the war against terror. >> the fact is we know terror creates a new ba
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. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try tsarnaev in federal court and no other options were considered. >> this is matter decide ode by the attend of yates and the attorney general. the whole national security team supports this decision. >> to bring it down for you, the confusion comes over the venue. there is no way under the military commissions act to try an american citizen at the military courts in guantanamo bay, but if a sed threshold of evidence was met, if there was evidence that the brothers were directed by a foreign terrorist organization that would call for enemy combatant status. >> we have been talking about the trip to russian that the older suspect took. it's my understanding you learn more about the trip. >> fox news was told that russia's equivalent othe fbi isn't a letter to the bureau claiming the older brother was a believer in ra
. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try tsarnaev in federal court and no other options were considered. >> this is matter decide ode by the attend of yates and the attorney general. the whole national security team supports this decision....
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it seems law enforcement is now distributing pictures of two people. i believe i have seen these pictures. it seems to me that they are getting closer, and they probably don't need to tell the press. probably a wise decision? >> i think so. i think it's a very good strategy. initially law enforcement was probably thinking if they released these photographs, maybe somebody would recognize these two individuals. however, mark furman hit on an interesting point. he talked about video imaging and identification technology. that technology is used by the boston police department and every major police department. what we can basically do, we can take an image of an individual, which i think is what they are doing here, and we can run them through a database. if they have ever been arrested anywhere in the united states, we can pretty much determine who they are. so i think th's what they are doing at this time, sean. >> what do you think, james? >> yeah. and there's your passports, driver's license, a number of resources that they can go. data banks are ver
it seems law enforcement is now distributing pictures of two people. i believe i have seen these pictures. it seems to me that they are getting closer, and they probably don't need to tell the press. probably a wise decision? >> i think so. i think it's a very good strategy. initially law enforcement was probably thinking if they released these photographs, maybe somebody would recognize these two individuals. however, mark furman hit on an interesting point. he talked about video imaging...
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just absolutely warmed with law enforcement. >> neil: got to wonder when they postpone a bruins and celtics game, and bostonians take their sports very seriously. obviously that is using an abundance of caution do they feel, molly, that the younger brother is still in that area? i mean, because he could easily have left some time ago. >> it's clear they're take this search seriously. just a few hours ago at the last press conference they said they searched 60 to 70% of the area they wanted to search. and the search is clearly not over. we're seeing police activity and firefighters and every once in a while we see things ramp up and then quiet down a little bit. the people rushing from place to place. so it's clear they do not believe the search in this area is over yet. whether or not they have a strong idea that he has managed to sliout of the area, i couldn't say. they're still working definitely diligently in this area and still pursuing all the leads they're get hearing in the watertown area and the surrounding area. >> neil: molly, thank you very much. you heard by now probably ad naus
just absolutely warmed with law enforcement. >> neil: got to wonder when they postpone a bruins and celtics game, and bostonians take their sports very seriously. obviously that is using an abundance of caution do they feel, molly, that the younger brother is still in that area? i mean, because he could easily have left some time ago. >> it's clear they're take this search seriously. just a few hours ago at the last press conference they said they searched 60 to 70% of the area they...